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BullionVince 12-11-2008 05:05 PM

NORINCO SKS
 
A few years ago I was a forward air observer for the USAF. I trained extensively with the M-16 A2 and M-4. I was severely dissatisfied with both weapons. On almost every occasion where I had to fire my weapon there was some sort of malfunction. There was one particular incident in which I had a gas feed problem that turned into an absolute horror show. I fired the first round fine and found after my second squeeze of the trigger I got nothing. I applied SPORTS and was able to fire another round. I quickly figured out that I wasn't getting a round in the chamber unless I fed it through manually. So every time I wanted to squeeze off a round I needed to yank back the charging handle and tap another round in. Never Again, I won't go anywhere near one EVER!!!

So I have been looking everywhere for an SKS. I am fairly particular about picking up a Russian or Chinese one. I tried at the local Gander Mountain where the guy threw his hands up in the air and said, "We don't have those, they are extremely dangerous. You need a class III FFL for that." Several other gunshops told me the exact same thing. Almost every time they tried to push the AR-15 onto me.

Finally today I got a hold of a guy who has 3 Norinco SKS rifles "left." He didn't say "in stock" he said "left." I told him I was going to run over and pick up my purchase permit and I would be in tomorrow. All 3 of them are between $150-$300. The $300 weapon had a collapsible stock and he felt more comfortable having me get the purchase permit even though he said it usually isn't needed. He would feel safer if I got it first though.

After filling out the purchase permit the receptionist at the police desk told me it could be up to 3 weeks to get my permit!!!! Great now I have to sit on pins and needles hoping these things stay in stock.

What do you guys think about $150 for a wood finished Norinco SKS.... sounds like a steal at this point.

mike77777 12-11-2008 05:11 PM

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good choice, chrome bore. stock was always a bit short for my liking, easy to put a recoil pad on to lenghten tho. clean cosmoline out thoroughly, stock up on some stripper clips and ammmo. good lightweight weapons.

The Argent Dragon 12-11-2008 05:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BullionVince (Post 1461275)
What do you guys think about $150 for a wood finished Norinco SKS.... sounds like a steal at this point.

At this point,

ANY - SKS rifle under $200 is a steal. :ok:

luft97 12-11-2008 05:16 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BullionVince (Post 1461275)

What do you guys think about $150 for a wood finished Norinco SKS.... sounds like a steal at this point.

Sounds like a good deal. My SKS is Chinese, all original, matching numbers etc. I keep it as a back-up 7.62x39 behind my Mini-30.

Glass 12-11-2008 05:27 PM

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Take a copy of your paperwork down to the dealer and see if you can put it on lay away :biggrin: you never know

SilverCity 12-11-2008 05:30 PM

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Many of the last Norinco SKSs brought into this country had barrels that were pinned into the receiver (cheaper) instead of threaded with either a long or short barrel nut.

The threaded, long barrel-nut receivers are the most desireable, IMO, because they maximize barrel rigidity and therefore improve accuracy.

Also look for an arsenal "26" proofmark inside a triangle on the receiver, as these were some of the best of the Chinese imports...

I also recommend the Yugoslavian SKS. They are very solidly built. No chrome-lined barrel, but that is not any problem if you are willing to clean them once in a while.

Good luck, SC

Twisted Avatar 12-11-2008 05:37 PM

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3 Attachment(s)
Looks nice.........

The Argent Dragon 12-11-2008 05:41 PM

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NORINCO ~ Full Tactical :ok:

http://customsks.com/images/Picture%20017.jpg

Zusn 12-11-2008 06:00 PM

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The last Norinco SKS I bought was about $190 and that was a few years ago. I was at a local Big sporting goods store yesterday. They had Yugo SKS's for $399!!!! :confused_ma:

<$200 for a SKS, get it!

Little Ant 12-11-2008 06:22 PM

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I have a Chinese Norinco SKS Factory 26 that I've dated to 1966 by the SN. I took it out last week for the first time and I absolutely love it. Some complain about the shorter stock but it works great for us shorter people. :s1:

The price on yours sounds great. I would grab it as soon as you can. And stock up on the ammo while you're at it.

George Spelvin 12-11-2008 06:32 PM

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I love my Norinco SKS. I find myself shooting it far more often than my AR. 190 is a steal in this day and age!

unalga 12-11-2008 06:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Glass (Post 1461295)
Take a copy of your paperwork down to the dealer and see if you can put it on lay away :biggrin: you never know

Give him the money for lay away. You don't get your paperwork, he has the money AND the rifle. He should be fine with that and you lock down what you want where you can find it NOW.

Mill Man 12-11-2008 07:43 PM

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"tatcicool" SKS's just scream white trash imo. For under 200 if the numbers match and its in decent condition thats a steal.

ohioarmedneutrality 12-11-2008 11:48 PM

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Yep go get it now before someone else does.

The Argent Dragon 12-12-2008 01:36 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mill Man (Post 1461511)
"tatcicool" SKS's just scream white trash imo.......

You know what they say about opinions............hehehe :biggrin:

Hey, if a mod makes a rifle 'lighter' or more useful or enables one to add 'needed' accessories then I view it as 'upgrades'.

If you're into it for looks ~ then your white trash comment is appropriate although I prefer 'Mall Ninja'.

:bear_tongue:

Ag_man 12-12-2008 02:30 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by The Argent Dragon (Post 1462653)
You know what they say about opinions............hehehe :biggrin:

Hey, if a mod makes a rifle 'lighter' or more useful or enables one to add 'needed' accessories then I view it as 'upgrades'.

If you're into it for looks ~ then your white trash comment is appropriate although I prefer 'Mall Ninja'.

:bear_tongue:

Or, chairborne ranger (my daughter's boyfriend)! :banghead:
Doesn't own anything bigger than an air rifle, yet he is an expert on firearms! I've told him 100 times, "Sonny, you want to play with guns, then join Uncle Scam's army and go play in the sandbox".

mick silver 12-12-2008 02:39 PM

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what state are you in that you need paper work before you get a gun ?

Little Ant 12-12-2008 02:40 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1462801)
what state are you in that you need paper work before you get a gun ?

The WRONG state I'd say.

BullionVince 12-13-2008 01:12 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mick silver (Post 1462801)
what state are you in that you need paper work before you get a gun ?



Minnesota.:36_1_63: I don't think it's normal to get a permit before a rifle purchase. I think this guy might just be a little paranoid about covering himself.

WAoG 12-13-2008 01:29 AM

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I can't stand mine Norinco SKS rifle.

I have never traded it or sold it though.

Local gun dealer I do believe told me it was a good one and he wanted it.

GoldWampum 12-13-2008 02:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Glass (Post 1461295)
Take a copy of your paperwork down to the dealer and see if you can put it on lay away :biggrin: you never know

Good suggestion.

Good choice BTW. I have a Norinco and I like it. I prefer it to AK and AR. Rugged machine. It came with a collapsible stock but I am replacing it with this. Should be in next week.

http://www.rifletech.com/m4sks/m4sks-unit3.jpg
http://www.rifletech.com/m4sks/m4sks-unit3s.jpg
http://www.rifletech.com/m4sks/m4_sks_rings.jpg
http://www.rifletech.com/m4sks/m4_sks_mag.jpg

It will end up looking something like this... without the muzzle brake.

http://www.rifletech.com/m4sks/m4_sks_bipod.jpg

GoldWampum 12-13-2008 03:01 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mill Man (Post 1461511)
"tatcicool" SKS's just scream white trash imo. For under 200 if the numbers match and its in decent condition thats a steal.

That' no more valid a statement than saying sks purists are ignorant and obstinate and have no clue about design improvement. Both broad brush statements and non-factual.

This is the part that counts. After that it's all personal preference.
http://www.rifletech.com/images/sks_mag01.jpg

gypsybiker45 12-13-2008 07:35 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BullionVince (Post 1463734)
Minnesota.:36_1_63: I don't think it's normal to get a permit before a rifle purchase. I think this guy might just be a little paranoid about covering himself.

In Mao-esota,you need the permit for all handguns ,AND "SEMI_AUTOMATIC MILITARY STYLE rifles" which IMHO, is BS Commie sh*t and am glad i live in MI.bancha

gypsybiker45 12-13-2008 07:43 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1463783)
That' no more valid a statement than saying sks purists are ignorant and obstinate and have no clue about design improvement. Both broad brush statements and non-factual.

This is the part that counts. After that it's all personal preference.
http://www.rifletech.com/images/sks_mag01.jpg

QUESTION! that mag adapter in your pic,is that for just hi-tech mags or for all ak mags?

GoldWampum 12-13-2008 08:27 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsybiker45 (Post 1463880)
QUESTION! that mag adapter in your pic,is that for just hi-tech mags or for all ak mags?

Good question. It doesn't really specify. I have it on order and will let you know next week.

gypsybiker45 12-13-2008 11:45 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1463888)
Good question. It doesn't really specify. I have it on order and will let you know next week.

Thanks! PM me if you would, or post it on this thread please.

smullen 12-13-2008 03:10 PM

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Having owned and shot many ARs, AKs and SKS, I much prefer the AK as compared to the SKS for several reasons... Just preronal pref, not trying to start a SKS bashing thread at all..

However, with rifles like these getting harder and harder to come by and the prices going though the roof, I would not mind picking up an two or three SKSs 150 ea...

Makes me miss the days when I could get them at the gun shows packed in cosmoline for like 70 bucks...

<SLV> 12-13-2008 03:22 PM

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I'll bet the cheaper ones have pinned barrels, or perhaps all of them do. The prices are spectacular. Look at the barrel lug. Is it long, short, or non-existant. The long lug is the best, and represents the oldest. Also, look at the serial number. 6-digits, and it is the oldest (1956). If it is seven digits add the first digit to the year 1956 to get the year of manufacture. The older ones are built better than the newer. If any of them have 16" barrels instead of 20", by ALL means pick them up. They are Norinco Paratroopers and are quite collectible.

____hoot____ 12-14-2008 08:02 PM

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Started out as a semi-auto 4 shot WWII 40 pound anti-tank rifle fireing a round with about 40% more "gusto" than a 50 caliber Browning. Might be why the still overbuilt scaled down versions of the Simonoff design have a following.

GoldWampum 12-14-2008 09:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsybiker45 (Post 1464007)
Thanks! PM me if you would, or post it on this thread please.

I'll do that.


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Mill Man 12-14-2008 10:12 PM

Re: NORINCO SKS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1463783)
That' no more valid a statement than saying sks purists are ignorant and obstinate and have no clue about design improvement. Both broad brush statements and non-factual.

This is the part that counts. After that it's all personal preference.
http://www.rifletech.com/images/sks_mag01.jpg

Just an opinion, don't go getting all bent outta shape.

GoldWampum 12-14-2008 10:23 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mill Man (Post 1465937)
Just an opinion, don't go getting all bent outta shape.

I'm not. Just showing you the fallacy of your statement. You could have stated your preference without being insulting.

The Argent Dragon 12-15-2008 09:49 AM

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from the Urban Dictionary :

Tacticool

A gun that has been unnecessarily modified to include such things as vertical foregrips, laser systems, flashlight systems, hair triggers, replacing wooden stocks with lightweight black plastic ones... and these expensive modifications are done to a rifle or shotgun to make it "cool."

"Tacticool" is generally used as an insult; when guns like the M4 or MP5 are modified in such ways for real uses like house-to-house combat or counter-terrorist operations, it is not usually used.

Dude 1: Dude, check out my SKS!
Dude 2: That doesn't look like an SKS to me...
Dude 1: Well yeah, I modified it a bit!
Dude 2: What the **** did you do to it!?
Dude 1: Well I replaced the original wooden stock with a black one and I added a laser sight and also a rail system so I could put a flashlight on it and...
Dude 2: Now why would go and tacticool a perfectly good rifle?

eat_beef 12-15-2008 05:56 PM

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Ahem.

Tactics are between your ears.

Not bolted on to your rifle.


The mind is the ultimate weapon. All else is supplemental.

<SLV> 12-15-2008 06:02 PM

Re: NORINCO SKS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1463783)
That' no more valid a statement than saying sks purists are ignorant and obstinate and have no clue about design improvement. Both broad brush statements and non-factual.

This is the part that counts. After that it's all personal preference.
http://www.rifletech.com/images/sks_mag01.jpg

Do you have a link to where this adapter can be purchased? Does it require machining to install?

GoldWampum 12-15-2008 06:10 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by <SLV> (Post 1467322)
Do you have a link to where this adapter can be purchased? Does it require machining to install?

No machining or gunsmithing. Not cheap however.

http://www.rifletech.com/2direct.htm

GoldWampum 12-15-2008 06:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eat_beef (Post 1467310)
Ahem.

Tactics are between your ears.

Not bolted on to your rifle.


The mind is the ultimate weapon. All else is supplemental.

This is true.

Twisted Avatar 12-15-2008 06:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eat_beef (Post 1467310)
Ahem.

Tactics are between your ears.

Not bolted on to your rifle.


The mind is the ultimate weapon. All else is supplemental.

+400000000000000


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mike77777 12-20-2008 06:19 PM

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weapons training today at the mike sevens compound. Loveflower learned to load, unload, and become familiar with the yugo sks. stripper clip loading, charging of magazine, safety location/use. she liked the tritium sights, and rubber butt plate. heavy, she says. also did ammo inventory, bugout planning. fun afternoon so far

Eastex 12-20-2008 09:43 PM

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I'm hitting this thread late, but a dealer told me he's getting $400. on SKS rifles and sold out. The last gun show I went to about a month ago, all SKS rifles were priced at $700. AR rifles were $1700.

I know nothing about SKS, but at those prices, I'd buy them all.

<SLV> 12-23-2008 09:24 AM

Re: NORINCO SKS
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldWampum (Post 1467333)
No machining or gunsmithing. Not cheap however.

http://www.rifletech.com/2direct.htm

Please give us a report once you install it and test it out.

Thanks!


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